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Padron and residence certificate confusion denounced
March 2008 Version
The Green Party of Orihuela, Los Verdes, has denounced the “sparse and contradictory information” provided by the town hall at Orihuela Costa with regards to residence and padron certificates.
Los Verdes stated in a press release that people are unable to fulfil the “absurd and contradictory” requirements demanded of them at the coastal town hall. In particular, the Los Verdes press statement spoke of residents going to register for a residencia certificate at the National Police desk, only to be told they need a padron certificate in order to do so. This has happened despite the law not demanding it.
Rule changes for padron registration were implemented in January at Orihuela Costa town hall, which would now ask for a residence certificate if a resident wished to sign on the padron. There was no prior notice or information given to residents, and for several days, no-one could say for definite what paperwork was required in order to get the residence certificate in the first place. It appeared at the time that the National Police had not received the new instructions for residence certificates.
Los Verdes also pointed out that the information pertaining to the padron is written in three different languages – Castilian, English and German - with each version demanding different requirements.
The opposition party also asks now what happens to those people already on the padron. Will they remain on the register? Or will the town hall inform its citizens of the steps they now need to take? Nothing has yet happened.
The Los Verdes press statement also questions the role of Stefan Pokroppa, calling him “the adviser of what, we do not know”. Los Verdes have previously denounced a website created by Mr Pokroppa which is positioned as the official information source for residents on the coast, yet Los Verdes feel is a political propaganda tool. They condemned Mr Pokroppa’s decision not to have any further dialogue with me due to an article I wrote, saying, “It is not the first time that this adviser has not treated a neighbour of the coast properly.”
It would appear the confusion has led the British Consul to clarify matters with Orihuela, for they have issued three documents to their contacts within the local Neighbourhood Watch group.
The following are instructions taken from those documents:
RIGHTS OF RESIDENCE
The right of residence for more than six months remains subject to certain conditions. Applicants must:
• either be engaged in economic activity (on an employed or self-employed basis);
• or have sufficient resources and sickness insurance to ensure that they do not become a burden on the social services of the host Member State during their stay. The Member States may not specify a minimum amount which they deem sufficient, but they must take account of personal circumstances;
• or be following vocational training as a student and have sufficient resources and sickness insurance to ensure that they do not become a burden on the social services of the host Member State during their stay;
• or be a family member of a Union citizen who falls into one of the above categories.
With regard to freedom of movement and residency within the EU, the following webpage sets out the principles, guidelines and summary of the regulations: europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l33152.htm <http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l33152.htm>.
COMMUNITY RESIDENCE CERTIFICATE
It is the responsibility of the National Police to handle the new residencia application forms. You will need:
(1) Completed application form and 2 copies.
(2) Passport or original identity card and 2 copies.
(3) One tax sheet Modelo 790* per person (Bank Payment Form)
(4) Original N.I.E. and 1 copy.
If you had applied for a Resident’s card prior to April 2nd 2007, you must inform the office about it when applying for the Community Residence Certificate.
If you already had a Resident’s card and it is due for renewal, you must inform the office about it when you present the application for the Community Residence Certificate, giving them a copy of the card.
Later, when you pick up the Community Residence Certificate, you must then handback the original Residencia card.
The office at Orihuela Costa Town Hall does not hand out the certificate on the day of application. You will be advised when to return for it.
To apply for and receive the certificate at the same time, you should present your application and documentation at the Police department in Alicante on C/ Campo de Mirra, 6, Alicante or at Orihuela´s police station on C/ Sol, 34, Orihuela City. Please check with them for correct opening times.
* The Tax Sheet Modelo 790 is available at the coastal town hall. A statutory fee of € 6.80 per person must be paid at a bank before the form can be processed there.
PADRON REQUIREMENTS
Everyone aged 18 or over must sign the registration form personally at the registration office.
All the necessary documents for the registration must be in Spanish.
The following documents are necessary: If you own the property where you want to be registered:
• Original and a copy of the passport of each person who wants to be registered.
• For Non-Spanish residents, the original and a copy of the Residence Card/Residence Certificate.
• Original and a copy of an Aquagest (Water) or Iberdrola (Electricity) bill. If the bill is still in the name of the previous owner, you need the original and a copy of the title deeds (Escritura) of the property. If you rent the property where you want to be registered:
• Original and a copy of the passport of each person who wants to be registered.
• For Non-Spanish residents, the original and a copy of the Residence Card/Residence Certificate.
• Original and a copy of the rental contract in Spanish. This must be at least a six-month contract. If the rental contract has been done through a Real Estate Agency, all the pages must be stamped with the official company stamp containing the C.I.F. number. Only people over the age of 18 whose names are stated in the contract can be registered. It is not necessary that dependants under 18 appear on the contract.
• Original and a copy of an Aquagest (Water) or Iberdrola (Electricity) bill.
There is currently no information available to give to those people who have already signed on the padron, but may need to obtain an up to date certificate. Los Verdes is calling for definitive information to be made available to all citizens, and to be authorised by the Mayor, Monica Lorente, to ensure no further confusion can occur.
Rebecca Griffin The CoastRider March 2008
March 2008 Version
The Green Party of Orihuela, Los Verdes, has denounced the “sparse and contradictory information” provided by the town hall at Orihuela Costa with regards to residence and padron certificates.
Los Verdes stated in a press release that people are unable to fulfil the “absurd and contradictory” requirements demanded of them at the coastal town hall. In particular, the Los Verdes press statement spoke of residents going to register for a residencia certificate at the National Police desk, only to be told they need a padron certificate in order to do so. This has happened despite the law not demanding it.
Rule changes for padron registration were implemented in January at Orihuela Costa town hall, which would now ask for a residence certificate if a resident wished to sign on the padron. There was no prior notice or information given to residents, and for several days, no-one could say for definite what paperwork was required in order to get the residence certificate in the first place. It appeared at the time that the National Police had not received the new instructions for residence certificates.
Los Verdes also pointed out that the information pertaining to the padron is written in three different languages – Castilian, English and German - with each version demanding different requirements.
The opposition party also asks now what happens to those people already on the padron. Will they remain on the register? Or will the town hall inform its citizens of the steps they now need to take? Nothing has yet happened.
The Los Verdes press statement also questions the role of Stefan Pokroppa, calling him “the adviser of what, we do not know”. Los Verdes have previously denounced a website created by Mr Pokroppa which is positioned as the official information source for residents on the coast, yet Los Verdes feel is a political propaganda tool. They condemned Mr Pokroppa’s decision not to have any further dialogue with me due to an article I wrote, saying, “It is not the first time that this adviser has not treated a neighbour of the coast properly.”
It would appear the confusion has led the British Consul to clarify matters with Orihuela, for they have issued three documents to their contacts within the local Neighbourhood Watch group.
The following are instructions taken from those documents:
RIGHTS OF RESIDENCE
The right of residence for more than six months remains subject to certain conditions. Applicants must:
• either be engaged in economic activity (on an employed or self-employed basis);
• or have sufficient resources and sickness insurance to ensure that they do not become a burden on the social services of the host Member State during their stay. The Member States may not specify a minimum amount which they deem sufficient, but they must take account of personal circumstances;
• or be following vocational training as a student and have sufficient resources and sickness insurance to ensure that they do not become a burden on the social services of the host Member State during their stay;
• or be a family member of a Union citizen who falls into one of the above categories.
With regard to freedom of movement and residency within the EU, the following webpage sets out the principles, guidelines and summary of the regulations: europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l33152.htm <http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l33152.htm>.
COMMUNITY RESIDENCE CERTIFICATE
It is the responsibility of the National Police to handle the new residencia application forms. You will need:
(1) Completed application form and 2 copies.
(2) Passport or original identity card and 2 copies.
(3) One tax sheet Modelo 790* per person (Bank Payment Form)
(4) Original N.I.E. and 1 copy.
If you had applied for a Resident’s card prior to April 2nd 2007, you must inform the office about it when applying for the Community Residence Certificate.
If you already had a Resident’s card and it is due for renewal, you must inform the office about it when you present the application for the Community Residence Certificate, giving them a copy of the card.
Later, when you pick up the Community Residence Certificate, you must then handback the original Residencia card.
The office at Orihuela Costa Town Hall does not hand out the certificate on the day of application. You will be advised when to return for it.
To apply for and receive the certificate at the same time, you should present your application and documentation at the Police department in Alicante on C/ Campo de Mirra, 6, Alicante or at Orihuela´s police station on C/ Sol, 34, Orihuela City. Please check with them for correct opening times.
* The Tax Sheet Modelo 790 is available at the coastal town hall. A statutory fee of € 6.80 per person must be paid at a bank before the form can be processed there.
PADRON REQUIREMENTS
Everyone aged 18 or over must sign the registration form personally at the registration office.
All the necessary documents for the registration must be in Spanish.
The following documents are necessary: If you own the property where you want to be registered:
• Original and a copy of the passport of each person who wants to be registered.
• For Non-Spanish residents, the original and a copy of the Residence Card/Residence Certificate.
• Original and a copy of an Aquagest (Water) or Iberdrola (Electricity) bill. If the bill is still in the name of the previous owner, you need the original and a copy of the title deeds (Escritura) of the property. If you rent the property where you want to be registered:
• Original and a copy of the passport of each person who wants to be registered.
• For Non-Spanish residents, the original and a copy of the Residence Card/Residence Certificate.
• Original and a copy of the rental contract in Spanish. This must be at least a six-month contract. If the rental contract has been done through a Real Estate Agency, all the pages must be stamped with the official company stamp containing the C.I.F. number. Only people over the age of 18 whose names are stated in the contract can be registered. It is not necessary that dependants under 18 appear on the contract.
• Original and a copy of an Aquagest (Water) or Iberdrola (Electricity) bill.
There is currently no information available to give to those people who have already signed on the padron, but may need to obtain an up to date certificate. Los Verdes is calling for definitive information to be made available to all citizens, and to be authorised by the Mayor, Monica Lorente, to ensure no further confusion can occur.
Rebecca Griffin The CoastRider March 2008